Pakistan: With allies like these . . .

The latest bombings in London should lead to increased scrutiny of Great Britain’s militant Islamic communities, and of Pakistan.
Three of the July 7 bombers traveled to Pakistan last year, where at least one of them visited one of that country’s many extremist Islamic religious schools, or madrassas, that are known breeding grounds for terrorists.
Pakistan has pledged to crack down on these terrorist factories — any evidence they are doing so? Pakistan, of course, is a key “ally” in the war on terror . . .
Posted by Randy Scholfield

28 Comments

  1. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    In the dead of night, Senators and House Members who have sold their loyalty to AIPAC gave Israel 2.5 billion dollars. That is in addition to the 3 billion, plus 13 billion in loan guaranties they’ve already handed AIPAC this year. {Israel has never paid back any of the billions of loan guarantees in all the years they’ve been receiving them} All this money has to be borrowed, then added to the nation debt. It is time to cut Israel loose. As Israel creates terrorism, therefore Pakistan is the least of our worries.

  2. Gary C.
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Totally agree,

    I believe us supporting Israel as we do, has hurt our image for so long with the Middle Eastern people.

    The Israelis are complete bullies when it comes to fighting the Palestians. The Palestians also do horrible things, but I believe the Israelis do more harm, with our weapons of course.

    Now as for Pakistan, I would have much rather seen us been tougher with them than as we did with Saddam. I recall they would not let a U.S. military presence into the country to look for Osama. Is that a true Allie? What are you hiding? If we were going to get tough on terroism I believe our first step should have been in dealing with Pakistan and their “against us” attitude.

  3. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Gary, Glad to see someone with some sense. The United States no longer exists by itself, but rather as an Israel controlled entity, with Bush as a willing traitor. Pakistan knows that to allow us too close only invites the Israeli Mossad into their country. They have atomic weapons and do not want Israeli spies to have access to their top-secrets as Israelis now have a free run of the US pentagon and all of our top-secrets. Our Federal Government is infested with Zionists who’s only loyalty is to Israel.

  4. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    OKLAHOMA CITY – Charles Chibitty, one of 20 Comanche Indians who used their native language as a code to transmit messages for the Allies during World War II, has died. He was 83. He was the last.

    I suppose the Israelis would have referred to the Comanche Warriors as “terrorists” but Zionism had not yet been hatched and defaced and defiled the earth. We slaughtered them and stole their land, land which they felt that they were only as custodians for God.

    Our History teaches us nothing as we pay the Israelis to commit the same crimes against the Palestinians, who also believe that they are custodians of the land. The Zionists have no religious beliefs, but do exploit Judaism in order to satisfy their greed.

  5. Mister Twister
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    “The U.S. Congress is Israeli controlled terrority.” Pat Buchanan

    We can’t change Pakistan and Arabia and Israel into our image, but do we have to “support” them with alliances and arms?

    The average American wants gov’t to work for the good of us here at home, but the big money special interests (of whom the Bush family with its Carlyle group and its Halliburton / Enron connections could be the poster children of) demand that we use our country’s resources to meddle, meddle, meddle.

    Get out now–everywhere and at once: South Korea, Germany, Japan, and Iraq.

    You have can have a thriving American democracy or you can have an American empire built on military might, but you can’t have both.

  6. Mister Twister
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Ed–I’d like to add to your comments that a lot of Palestinans are not Muslim, but Christian. They too get no quarter from the Zionists, who burn their villages, steal their land, shoot them down if necessary and then hire them back to work in the same orchards and vineyards they themselves had planted.

    When you read a book like “Blood Brothers” by Elias Chacour, you wonder not that the Palestinans resort to terrorism, but what holds back so many from attacking Israel out of pure desperation and revenge. Chacour, a devout Christian, preaches nothing but non-violence and toleration.

    Meanwhile, conservative Christians in this country completely ignore the atrocities taking place against the fellow believers, instead siding with the Zionist state in some kind of bizarre and superstitious belief that it will hasten “the end times.”

    Really strange . . .

  7. Mister Twister
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Ed–I’d like to add to your comments that a lot of Palestinans are not Muslim, but Christian. They too get no quarter from the Zionists, who burn their villages, steal their land, shoot them down if necessary and then hire them back to work in the same orchards and vineyards they themselves had planted.

    When you read a book like “Blood Brothers” by Elias Chacour, you wonder not that the Palestinans resort to terrorism, but what holds back so many from attacking Israel out of pure desperation and revenge. Chacour, a devout Christian, preaches nothing but non-violence and toleration.

    Meanwhile, conservative Christians in this country completely ignore the atrocities taking place against the fellow believers, instead siding with the Zionist state in some kind of bizarre and superstitious belief that it will hasten “the end times.”

    Really strange . . .

  8. Mister Twister
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Oops, sorry about the double post.

    Mr.T.

  9. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 22, 2005 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Mr. T No Apology necessary. Just keep posting until we get our country back and rid ourselves of traitors.

  10. J M Walker
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Interesting. Ignornace is alive and well in Kansas. As is, it seems, racism. Zionism running the United States? Get real. It’s a country, Isreal, whose people would be slaughtered in a genocidal haze of blood if it weren’t for our help and assistance. Muslum nations won’t be satisfied until Isreal is destroyed, and the Jewish people with it. The condemnation of Zionism by the United Nations shows any thinking person just how ignorant that whole outfit is.Hastening the “end of times”? What kind of nonsense is that? Somebodys been watching too much TV.

  11. Mister Twister
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 10:22 am | Permalink

    Okay, J.M., I don’t blame you for your appalling ignorance, I blame America. I used to think like you do, but then I met some Palestinians and talked to them. I started reading non-US newspapers like The Guardian and The Independent.

    I found out that Zionists like Menacham Begin committed the same kind of terrorist acts that they now condemn against Palestine to establish Israel. For instance, Begin himself was involved in blowing up the King David Hotel and killing many British citizens. He was once Britain’s number one criminal, like our bin Laden.

    As for Israel and “end times,” I agree it’s nonsense, but not for the reason that you think. Here’s a representative example–Dr Randall Price, in his recent book, “The Coming Last Days Temple”, gives a very thorough explanation of the pattern of prophecy concerning the Temple, and therefore Israel. He shows that the words of Daniel, Jesus and John (in his Revelation) form a clear, consistent and progressive account of what God will bring to fruition. He shows how the prophecy of 70 weeks in Daniel works out. (Very briefly, the weeks are each weeks of years (7 years) and the first 69 worked out as prophesied when Messiah first came; the clock then stopped, starting the Church Age. The last week (7years) will commence when the clock re-starts with the Rapture of the Church, and it will end with Messiah’s second coming).

    Those Tim LaHaye “Left Behind” books, one of the best-selling series ever, are full of this kind of psudeo-religion. And the link between Israel and the end times is paramount–here’s a quote about “Armageddon,” (one of many in the series): “The scattered Trib Force is drawn toward the Middle East, as are all the armies of the world . . . a fighting force of untold millions covers the plains of Israel . . . ”

    But you’re right, J.M., you’ll never hear about the systematic extermination of Palestine from reading the mainstream news.

  12. Hammer
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Lots of Anti-Semite opinion in this country, JM. I don’t question that Israel has a lot of influence in this country, but it’s hard not to pull for the under dog. And let’s face it. Israel is an ally.

    “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”

  13. J M Walker
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Aw shucks, people. Excuse me for being such an unworldy guy.I am able to form my own opinion based on reading much more than US based papers. And I don’t even listen to Rush or watch the Fox news network. Boy, am I stupid.Where did I mention Palestine in my previous piece? The blog started with Pakistan and degraded to anti-zionist nonsense. I am sure that Isreal is souly responsible for the state of the middle east today…not.I am also familiar with the book of revelations, and how it is subject to interpretation.Best-selling books (Tim LaHaye “Left Behind” books) containing prophesies about the end of times? Yeah, I’m going to believe them…then I’m going to Hogworts and become a wizard.

  14. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    “Why Do They Hate Us? Not Because of Iraq”

    From the New York Times to the Dallas Morning News, all across America, the “battle cry” is the same coordinated response: “Killing Arabs in Iraq, Afghanistan or Palestine has nothing to do with the Arab anger at the West, oh no, it’s their religion of Islam that’s the culprit.” With the squeals of protest of being caught by the world nations, the Zionist sympathizers bellow in unison to distract attention from US/Israeli led butchery, to any old port in a storm.

    The civilized World is privy to witnessing an act of desperation from the war-crime criminals of the world being caught in their act.

    Their concocted consensus: “Even if we stopped killing Arabs, it’s just the nature of their religion to be violent and “terrorism” is their way of life. They’re just committed to global jihad.” { “Jihad,” by the way, is their favorite new word and how they love to pound that into the ground, while pointing to “global” makes them giddy }

    The US/ Israeli led “coalition of the murdering, butchering, slaughtering, land grabbing, village, town, and city destroying thugs” have been caught with the collective pants down, and the light of the world is shinning on they’re dirty underwear. If words could stink, from the New York Times to the Dallas morning News, the smell would drive the world to puke. { Didn’t their mothers not tell what would happen if were hurt and had to go to the hospital? }

    Reading America’s Zionist controlled newspapers,Watching America’s Zionist controlled TV,Reading America’s Zionist controlled magazines,Listening to America’s Zionist controlled radio,Watching America’s Zionist controlled movies,Waiting for America’s Zionist controlled schools to teach truth,Waiting for America’s Zionist controlled Government.

    The message is the same old thing in America: Like the “Sound of Music” bouncing off every hilltop and from every valley; we’re not the reason Arabs are mad at us, and they have no right to retaliate, and we haven’t done anything wrong, we’re Christians, you know, and our love is on every bomb that we drop, every bullet we shoot, every house we bulldoze, every Arab family we destroy, every child we shoot, every Mosque we bomb, all 60 years of the river of Arab blood we spilled, nothing but guiltless love and the love of democracy and the wonderful Zionists who help so much with the spreading of that love.

    SO: ” Why Do They Hate Us? Not Because of Iraq!

    President Bush: { paraphrasing}” We ain’t on no, um, er ah, Crusade or, um, er, nothing like that there, we is out to spread democracy to all da folks, da folks in the “hole” big world, duh, er, yeah.”

    Now when the super-power President Ariel Sharon speaks words from the dummy on his lap, everybody needs to listen.

  15. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Why are the Zionist butchers of the so-called “country of { no borders} Israel” allowed to vote in American elections? Mr. Stupid is sitting in the White House thanks to them.

    { both Arabs and Jews are Semites, so the antiSemitism thing is a cruel joke and a hiding place }

  16. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    The Israeli Mossad blew-up the Tube in London in order to keep the “terrorism” thing going. World opinion, which is not based on American Zionist newspapers, or Tony Blair, but actual truthful facts has put that together. The Timers on the bombs were too sophisticated for the Muslims in Britain to operate, and when they tried to follow that bombing just a few days ago, their timers would not work at all. The Mossad is the most dangerous and clever Secret police in the world, even better than the KGB. The Mossad just blew-up that Red Sea Resort, again much to sophisticated for Arabs from Gaza. The “Terrorism” thing was invented by the Zionists and world opinion has caught-on. That’s why Sharon is now so desperate to keep it alive.

  17. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 23, 2005 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Pakistan: With allies like these . . . Should read……..Israel: With allies like these……The government of the United States can now:

    The Patriot Act………Passed in Congress, supported by Zionists in Government { Neocons }

    1. Seize any bank-account.

    2. Seize any private property.

    3. Jail anyone and does not have to disclose where they are being kept or charges against them and keep them forever.

    4. Murder anyone in the name of “Homeland Security.”

    5. Attack any Country without any given reason.

    6. We American citizens have no rights whatsoever.

    7. And you have the nerve not to make this your headline.

    8. And the Government {Zionist Members} want to pick-up our guns. { wonder why? }

    9. Now tell me what an “Ally” the GD Jewish State of Israel is?

  18. Ellen Estes
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    How did these comments go from Pakistan to Palestinians. You all got totally off the point. I am here in Rhode Island teaching and I just showed my students the bizzare response alluding to Israel being involved in the bombings in London. ” Have you no decency, Sir?”

  19. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I have decency, madam. Have you no brains, madam?

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Ellen, Where was all your outrage when your fat Zionist Sharon ordered the bulldozing of Rachel Corrie, you phony Hypocrite.

    http://www.rachelcorrie.org/news.htm

  21. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Ellen, Perhaps your students would like to learn how beastly Israel really is? How could they do this to Rachel Corrie parents?

    http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/18/seeking_answers_from_israel/

  22. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Ellen, Want to tell your students the truth about the massarce at Dier Yassin? The start of 60 years of slaughter, or is that less important than the violation of changing subjects?

    http://www.deiryassin.org/

  23. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 24, 2005 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Sharon told Bush to give India bigger, better nukes and Israel has already sold our most sophisticated radar to India last year. The War against Iran has already started. CIA and Mossad agents are inside Iran now, trying to organize dissidents, as Rumsfeld is building airbases just to the north of Iran. Permanent bases in Iraq are looking straight at Iran. Israel wants it all, from the Nile to the Euphrates.

    India has been promised Kashmir as a bonus for helping to threaten Pakistan to back down in trying to help Iran to defend itself, as the US pours weapons into India. India tested the water today by shooting and killing 3 Pakistan teenage boys, wounding a fourth, for straying from a wedding celebration in disputed Kashmir, the same old Sharon Trademark. As the Israeli dog and pony show hits the road.

    This could not be a worst time to have a jerk in the White House.

  24. Antares
    Posted July 25, 2005 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    JM–google AIPIC just for grins and see what you find.

  25. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 27, 2005 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    It’s AIPAC {Spl}

  26. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 27, 2005 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    How we got into this mess.In the 2000 election Bush became President. Then his true personality emerged. Although his handlers used the ” Religious Right ” or Evangelicals, as they are known, to elect him, few people knew how deeply-held his religious beliefs ran.Christian extremists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell organized prayer sessions in the White House, three to five times a day and saw to it that their boy was insulated from any influences other than neoconservatives { Zionists }. These Evangelicals had their “boy” in the White House and wanted their agenda set in motion. The theme that they were selling to Bush was that God had put him into the White House for a reason, and that reason was to make “Christian Values” become law.The stage was set.The Zionist Jews in Israel are some of the smartest people in the world and the most ruthless. Ariel Sharon eyed what had happened in the United States and he and his Zionist Likud Party, along with the Israeli Mossad realized that they had the opportunity of a lifetime dropped right into their laps.The Israelis had organized a secret police called the Mossad to insure Israel’s survival, and they had infiltrated their agents into every country and organization worldwide, which could either hurt or help them.The Mossad is the best intelligence agency ever created. As early as 1955 they had “acquired ” a complete arsenal of atomic warheads, along with delivery systems, stolen from the United States.But Bill Clinton wouldn’t “bite the Bit” on the “Global War on Terrorism,” “terrorism” then just a local thing that the Jews had named the Palestinian’s resistance for fighting back Those Palestinians trying to save their villages, farms, homes, and families from the slaughter of attacking hordes of the invading Zionist Jews.Ariel Sharon met with Bush in the White House, ten times in all, and agreed with Bush that God had sent him on a mission, an extenuation of Christian Values into the final Crusade to clear the “holy-lands” of Palestinians in preparation for the “Second Coming of Jesus Christ.” And that events mentioned in the “Bible” were speaking directly to him. If you listen carefully, that’s all in Bush’s speeches.Israeli engineers told Sharon that a fire in the middle third of the World trade Center buildings would cause the poorly constructed support beams to sag, and the weight from the top third of the buildings would cause them to collapse straight down. But the fire needed to engulf as least two floors, preferably three. Commercial aircraft full of fuel would be perfect for starting the fires, though the fuel would burn-off quickly, the temperature would set everything else ablaze.Mossad agents had Arab pilots ready to go. All those pilots needed was a timetable and direction.And Osama Bin Laden and his straggly little “al-Qaeda group ” were about to become the most famous patsies the world has ever known { notice in that first tape of Osama talking to a mullah, that he had no idea how the WTC had happened and was amazed about the timing }.Mossad Agents had whisked Osama Bin Laden away from a ” meeting ” in his grody ” little training camp ” in Afghanistan, as Bill Clinton’s cruise missiles were on their way. Those missiles hit empty buildings, missing Osama by minutes.The precision with which the bombings of the Tube in London, Spain, and the WTC are the typical hallmark of excellence so common to the Mossad. As is the fumbling and ineptness of Arabs trying to do it themselves. Without the Mossad for direction the Arabs are lost.The Mossad has done it: Pulling-off the great farce mankind has ever known: The ” Global War on Terrorism. ” And its counterpart the ” Axis of Evil ” { notice Iraq is named first in the ” Axis ” }. And as is often said: the rest is history.Now before you start honking your ” anti-Semitism Horn ” here’s my partial list of the greatest minds this world has ever produced: They’re all Jewish.Albert Einstein… Sigmund Freud…Bob Dylan…Edward Teller…Stephen Spielberg…Mel Blanc…Henry Kissinger …Alan Greenspan…Yitzhak Rabin…Barry Goldwater …Milton Friedman…etc…etc…etc……..And, without any doubt, my best friend growing-up: Lemmy Miller.

  27. Ed Friedemann
    Posted July 28, 2005 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    The Mossad did 9/11, London, and Spain. Now they’re investigating. “The RAT is now in charge of the Cheese.”

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