Mississippi burning no longer

Mississippi showed the world this week that justice delayed is not justice denied with the conviction of 80-year-old ex-Ku Klux Klan member Edgar Ray Killen, who helped organize the brutal murders of three civil rights workers in 1964 (the historical basis for the movie “Mississippi Burning”). In 1994, Mississippi finally convicted another racist killer, Byron de la Beckwith, for the 1963 sniper killing of Medgar Evers.
Here’s hoping Killen spends the rest of his days in prison — it’s a lot more than he gave the young men whose lives he snuffed out.
Posted by Randy Scholfield

59 Comments

  1. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 22, 2005 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Your reader may be all gitty about that railroad confiction, but, without any real evidence it certainly wasn’t justice.

    Ed Friedemann 1702 Francis Street. Carrollton, Texas 75006 Phone 972-446-4073

  2. Damoon
    Posted June 22, 2005 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    It’s “conviction”, not “confiction”. I’m glad the old man is finally having to pay the price for what he did. I guess “the good old boys” couldn’t bail him out of this one!

  3. Jerry Davidson
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    It looks as if Edgar Ray wins again now that the state will be picking all his medical expenses.

  4. NoJoCo
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    The prison should make him run on a treadmill to produce electrical power in his cell (while watching “Missippi Burning).

  5. NoJoCo
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    That should be “Mississippi Burning”

  6. Genita Love
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    It’s disgusting! To convict an elderly gentleman that isn’t in the best of health..for something he MAY or MAY NOT have done, possibly KNEW about…? Sorry…but, that has to be the MOST disgusting, revolting travesty and miscarriage of justice I’ve seen..and that’s certainly including the recent Michael Jackson Case.

    I could care less if this makes me seem racist, but,if Mr. Killen DID in fact kill those Civil Rights idiots, then he did America a good deed! And, those white people that convicted that eldery gentleman should be ashamed of themselves..and I sincerely wonder just HOW in sweet hell do they look themselves in the eye each day, or in the mirror each morning? They are simply betraying their OWN kind by countenancing the prosecution and conviction of that elderly gentleman that was remaining true to himself, his ethics,morals and convictions.. What hypocrites they are!

  7. Freedom is Dead in America
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    May the Constitution rest in peace…

    Anyone ever heard of that tired old dead document that was written to limited the powers of government? How many times was he tried until they finally got a conviction? Two, three, four? It’s so slick how the government completely removed the Constitutional Amendment of Double Jeopardy by trying in state courts, then federal court, etc… Maybe we’ll get a mistrial so we’ll try him over and over and over and over again. Eventually we’re bound to get a conviction. Maybe this time the media will work overtime in it’s demonization of the defendant, “evil-vicious-neo-nazi-bigoted-white-supremacist-hater”. Hey, now he’s set for a fair trail…and if not…we’ll just try him again! May the Constitution rest in peace.

    God help you people when it’s YOUR turn.

  8. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    just this week a Mexican raped a 9 year old White child in Ohio. The KKK needs to make a comeback. Mr. Killen and his like were doing God’s work and I say bless him!

  9. Sum1
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Wow, nothing like saying what you feel. Recently we hear of a white man in California who’s molested tens of thousands of children. Does that mean that everyone should do God’s work and eliminate all white men? or how about just American men?

  10. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Actually, that “white man” in California is a Jew and thus not White at all. In any event it was never my point to say that all White people are saints. Rather, I wish that we had millions of people like Mr. Killen because if we did this country wouldn’t be headed down the toilet!

  11. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Actually, that “white man” in California is a Jew and thus not White at all. In any event it was never my point to say that all White people are saints. Rather, I wish that we had millions of people like Mr. Killen because if we did this country wouldn’t be headed down the toilet!

  12. CF
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    I appreciate people’s honesty. But y’all are some sorry-ass racists–simple as that. Self-hating, fearful, ignorant racists.

    Mr. Santiago, Mr. Friedemann, and Ms. Love, I hope that young female relatives of yours date black, Latino, and Jewish men, who satisfy them sexually in ways that Mr. Santiago and Mr. Friedemann never could, and that they give birth to mixed-race offspring.

    And, as a half Jew, it is my GREAT privilege not to be White–the less I have to do with the likes of you, the better.

  13. CF
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Pardon me: I meant to say ‘White.’

  14. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    I actually have three University degrees and I am hardly ignorant. Also, I am a racially aware and proud White American of Cuban heritage and in our familiy such vile race-mixing as you suggested would never be tolerated!

    As for you and all jews, blacks, and non-white latinos, I want nothing to do with you either. In fact that is what we are fighting for; you “people” are nothing but destroyers of civilization! Our final victory is assured; thank God!

  15. WJV
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else find it ironic that Mr. Santiago just referred to himself as a “White American of Cuban heritage”??? Last time I checked, Cubans were Latino……… It’s the ignorant few like you who have posted your views on here that are bringing this country down, not the other way around. And by the way, Mr. Santiago, I’d have to say I’m more White than you, seeing as how I am of German-Dutch descent. And you make me sick. My bi-racial son is the most perfect creation on this earth as far as I am concerned. If God didn’t want him to be that way, he wouldn’t have made him that way. And i think you mean WASP not White… please, do not lump you racist thought process in with my nationality. Go back to Cuba!!!

  16. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Actually, Latino is an artificial term as it does not specify race! My Grandparents were all born in Spain and that makes me a White Man!

    As for your mixed race son I feel sorry for him; he is a crime against nature and an affront to God! If you knew your scripture you would know that those of mixed race have no place in heaven! In fact it is selfish evil-doers such as yourself who are ruining this country not me!

  17. Damoon
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    I agree, if you can’t accept others because their race is different than yours, then you shouldn’t be living in this country. America is the great melting pot and diversity is something we should celebrate. I really feel sorry for those of you who have such hatred in your hearts, you must be very unhappy people. I’ll keep you in my prayers.

  18. Damoon
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    I agree with WJV, not Ian. I just want to make that crystal clear.
    Ian, are you any relation to Fred Phelps?

  19. Damoon
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Why is it that often when someone proclaims to be Christian, they usually follow with a statement that convinces you they’re not?

  20. WJV
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Actually, Mr. Santiago, I still argue the point that Spaniards are “White” but whatever…….

    And I’d like to know what scripture you are reading? becuase the only person who will not be allowed to heaven is you. “judge not lest ye be judged”.

  21. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    I very happy as I have been blessed. I have 5 lovely, racially aware White children, I have my own profitable company, and I am a devout SSPX Catholic with the Lord in his heart!

  22. CF
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Ian, hate yourself much? God, are you even for real? I can see why Fidel kicked your elitist ass out of Cuba.

    The funny thing is that the real ‘White’ purists would hold their noses around you. ‘Spain’ is a Catholic country–and Southern ‘White’ folks, at least, don’t cotton too well to Catholics. You’re borderline, Ian. I remember a Monty Python sketch that derisively referred to someone as a ‘greasy Spaniard.’ If the shoe fits, wear it. That’s why I put ‘White’ in scare quotes: it’s every bit as much a construct as ‘Latino’ is.

    Three university degrees, eh? Well, goody for you; they don’t seem to have had any effect on your awareness and worldview. Sorry you spent all that money for nothing.

    Before you start running your mouth about ‘destroyers of civilization’ I want to remind you that it was Jews who put the ‘Judeo’ in ‘Judeo-Christian.’ Without us, no Old Testament, no Law, no prophecy, no Jesus. But if, by civilization, you mean ‘White’ privilege such as existed in Cuba under Bautista, then yes, we DO mean to end the unjust distribution of resources, and murder, exploitation, and rape that Spanish colonialism sowed in Latin America.

    As for my son, he’s strong, handsome, extremely perceptive and intelligent. For you to call him a ‘crime against nature’ and ‘an affront to God’ makes God sound like an ass. So don’t drag God into this: it’s YOUR feelings of inadequacy and the need to overcompensate that are on display here. People who have something going for them don’t have to cling so tightly to their racial identity. Oh, and regarding my son, I’m sure he feels sorry for you too, Ian.

    Pathetic and unbelievable. I’ll pray for you. We all need prayer, albeit in different ways.

  23. CF
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Ah, Ian, so you’re one of those Fascist Catholic whackjobs who are part of the Church’s secret power structure! Took a look at y’all’s website, and it’s pretty clear you’ve drunk the Kool-Aid. Well, whatever works for you, but I think your interpretation of the Gospel has zero to do with Christ and everything to do with justifying your own place in a hierarchy of power. And race is a basic building block of the unequal distribution of power. Very interesting. What this has to do with Christ, I don’t know. What it has to do with power: everything.

    I’ll be happy when Castro dies, if for no other reason than that you’ll leave our country and stop poisoning our democracy.

  24. Freedom is America is Dead
    Posted June 23, 2005 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    CF, your technique of divide and conquer would make Lazar Kagonovitch proud. You nothing less than ignorant…Spanish is white, Santiago is white. Catholicm is a religion, not his race. David Duke won office in a district that was 76% Catholic. His campaign manager is Catholic, and Italian. Perhaps you should read his book, “My Awakening” and learn something for a change?

    If you Jews are so really concerned with removing hate and intolerance, don’t worry about 80 year old wheelerchild bound former klansmen. Instead, first get a grip of yourselves. Israel is nothing less than a Jewish supremacist state that makes the former apartheid state of South Africa look like a bastion of civil rights and equality. Meanwhile, your always pushing equality, civil rights, hate crime and open borders mass immigration for our countries worldwide. I never see the ‘ol Abe Foxman of the ADL or Mark Potok of the SPLC criticize Israel…..lying Jewish Hypocrites.

  25. Freedom is America is Dead
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Oh, and CF, I’d say go to Israel but didn’t you say your children’s mother isn’t of Jewish ethnicity? That means that to the Israelis they’re mongrel-bastards and not ethnically pure enough to immigrate to this Jewish supremacist state. So like your Jewish counterparts just keep laughing and pointing at the small twig in the White Nationalist’s eye while you Jews have a log in your own…

  26. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    Freedom in America is Dead,

    Actually, I’m a Presbyterian by confession, but with a Jewish mother, Jewish enough for folks like you to want me dead.

    I should read a book by David Duke and ‘learn something for a change?’ Bwah ha ha ha ha ha!!! God, you’re a full-on, racist whackjob aren’t you? What’s with the Lazar Kagonovitch (sic) reference: are you accusing me of being a Stalinist? Well, try again. If anything, I’d be Trotskyite, but not even that, really.

    As for Israel, as a LIBERAL Jew I have NO affinity for their current treatment of the Palestinian people. It’s a disaster and completely unjust. There will either be two states or none. I won’t defend Sharon and Likud. It truly is apartheid–another right-wing disaster. It’s just funny to hear a racist like you loftily proclaiming the wrongness of apartheid. I guess you’ll whore yourself any way possible to win an argument.

    As for the Potok and Foxman comments, you’re obviously educating yourself from Duke’s site. I’m not going to argue with Duke through a shill like you.

    Regarding immigration to Israel, F___ that. I’m an American. I’m staying RIGHT HERE, where I can fight punk-ass racists like you.

  27. Freedom is America is Dead
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    “If anything, I’d be Trotskyite…”

    Exactly, Leon Trotsky was born Lev Bernstein.

    “As for Israel, as a LIBERAL Jew I have NO affinity for their current treatment of the Palestinian people. It’s a disaster and completely unjust….It truly is apartheid”

    Agreed, Israel is a racist apartheid state no doubt. Only problem is your hypocritical Jewish “human rights” friends in the ADL or media seem to remain silent.

    “There will either be two states or none.”

    My Lord, that’s ethnic seperatism! The very same thing you Jews claim to hate about us White Nationalists you publically proclaim……another Jewish hypocrite!

    “I won’t defend Sharon and Likud. -another right-wing disaster. It’s just funny to hear a racist like you loftily proclaiming the wrongness of apartheid”

    No Jew, it’s the hypocriticalness of your people for which I proclaim as wrong. Pushing every degenerate, integrationist, hate crime, mass immigration progam for us worldwide while allowing pure supremacist apartheid for yourselves. Even a professed “liberal” Jew such as yourself demand a SEPERATE home for Jews and Palestinians. Yet, that’s exactly what we White Seperatists we want for ourselves you hypocritical Jew.

    “I’m staying RIGHT HERE, where I can fight punk-ass racists like you.”

    Remember the non ethnic Jewish wife? No doubt you’re staying here. Again, your ethnic Jewish friends in Israel think your children are mongrel-bastards and not pure enough to be legally allowed to immigrate Israel.

  28. Freedom is America is Dead
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 2:13 am | Permalink

    CF wrote, “There will either be two states or none.”

    You racist! You Jewish Supremacist!

    Why not instead embrace the love of diversity and multiculturalism? Afterall, diversity is our strength…right?
    Perhaps the oppressed Palestinians should instead be given affirmative action? Integation completely into Jewish society? Legalization of intermarriage between Arabs and Jews. Open the borders to diverse immigration, the current “Jews Only” policiy is racist. In fact, over time no doubt the Jews we be destroyed as a people. But what’s wrong with that? We’re all the same…right? Our bloods all red. Just one race the human race….right?

    Those things are EXACTLY what your people have pushed on nearly every former European society since the end of WWII. Yet you, even as a so called “liberal” Jew have the gall to demand aa SEPERATE state for yourselves and anoter for the Palestinians. One standard of complete mixing of whites/blacks/Mexicans in America while another of purist seperatism for yourselves in Israel. Anti-semitism is being awaken to the always existent hypocritical double standards of Jews…and a huge disproportionate amount of power to push that double standard on your people.

  29. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 2:31 am | Permalink

    Last comment to dumbass:

    Two states are what the parties involved want for themselves. It’s not my job to dictate to them. Nor yours. As for America, our Constitution says ‘one people, under God, with liberty and justice for all.’ Don’t like it? Then leave.

    Well, it is really quite astonishing to see you work yourself up into an impotent little tizzy. Methinks thou doth protest a bit too much about my integrationist/ degenerate/ intermarriage agenda. Ever hear of ‘projection’? What do you hate about yourself that finds a convenient scapegoat in me?

    In my world, everbody marries everybody, sectarianism evaporates, borders are open, and humanity unrestrained does its thing. Failing that, Israel and Palestine live together separately and hopefully get over it someday. You have SO utterly misconstrued my intentions that it would be laughable, if only your rage didn’t overtake you.

    Don’t blame the world’s problems on me, ‘Freedom.’ Your lynch mob mentality is a far more promising candidate.

  30. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 2:42 am | Permalink

    Wait a minute. Arguing with a Nazi? What the hell was I thinking?

  31. joseph
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    SSPX is a schismatic bunch of nutcases who claim to be Catholics. They are not. Pope JP2 kicked them around like a soccer ball. Pope Benedict will be equally unreceptive of their nonsense. Go away, Ian S., you’re hatefulness is unwelcome.

  32. WJV
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Thank you joseph. As a Roman Catholic, NON-RACIST, it sickens me that people like Ian are giving Catholics a bad name by trying to claim that as their religion. And before you have any smart-mouthed retorts, Ian, yes I am aware of something called the Crusades. I am also aware that is no longer a policy that the Roman Catholic church teaches.

    I have just a few points for you. As a Christian, or whatever you want to claim yourself to be, you argue that God sees racial mixing as an affront, and that Jews are not of the “White” race. What part of the bible are you reading???? Obviously you skipped over the part where God sent Jesus to earth as a JEW. Or maybe you neglected to note that Jesus would have been Middle-Eastern, an ethnicity that is definately NOT “White”. Since that is what God made his only son, by your arguements, obviously Middle Eastern descent would be the “right” ethnicity.

    And yes, Latino would be considered an ethnicity, and being from Cuba, that is what you would be. However, if you want to argue the point, as determined by the United States Government, here are your choices for ethnic make-up: Native American, African American, Hispanic, Asian, Middle-Eastern, and Caucasian. Notice “White” isn’t anywhere on the list. I for one would be ashamed to include you in my ethnic culture.

    And CF does have a point. As the good old boys of the KKK would be happy to tell you, they hate Catholics almost as much as they hate other ethnicities. In fact, in their day, they burned crosses on the lawns of Catholics as well as (pardon my political incorrectness for this statement, i mean no offense)Blacks. So before you get on your high horse and demand their return, maybe you better stop to consider that you, as a Cuban backgrounded Catholic (if that’s what you want to call yourself) would not be welcomed in their midst. In fact, they would likely try to come after you and teach you a lesson for trying to include yourself in their hallowed ranks.

  33. Damoon
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    CF, I’m thankful to Ian and “America”, they illustrate very vividly just how ugly racism and bigotry really are. It’s people like them that help the rest of us become aware of our responsibility to stand up against hatred whenever and wherever we encounter it. God will judge them in the end and I seriously doubt that those with so much hatred in their heart will find a place in heaven, and Lord knows they do a great job of creating their own hell on earth.

  34. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Damoon,

    Indeed. An event like the Killen trial turns over the rock and all of us gape at what crawls out. Truly astonishing. Hatred is probably the ultimate perversion.

  35. Freedom is America is Dead
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    “In my world, everbody marries everybody, sectarianism evaporates, borders are open, and humanity unrestrained does its thing.”

    In your own hypocritical words, that’s your standards for America, or Europe, whever the diaspora lives outside Israel.

    “There will either be two states or none.”

    In your own words, that’s your hypocritical double standard for your own people regarding the Paletinians in Israel.

    Rather than racist, hater, supremacist or the like. I suppose you can just call me a “Zionist-European”, if people like me took power we’d just pattern the laws after Israel. One standard for Jews, another for everyone else….

  36. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Would somebody feed the troll? He seems to want some attention.

  37. E. Ireland
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    The trolls seem to feed on their own acerbic malevolence washed down with syrup of ipecac mixed with X-LAX.

  38. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    CF…..You’re off-subject. I was talking about justice. Does that subject perplex that room-temperature IQ of yours?

  39. CF
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Ed Friedemann has cut me to the quick! I’m all ‘gitty’ about that railroad ‘confiction!’ You make yourself look so ignorant that even a room temperature IQ such as my own is left with little to do.

    How is witness testimony not evidence? Moreover, someone doesn’t have to pull the trigger to be guilty of murder, or, in the case of this verdict, manslaughter.

    If it’s good enough for the jury, it’s good enough for me. Or does Mr. Friedemann not like trial by jury?

  40. Damoon
    Posted June 24, 2005 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    CF, AMEN!!!!

  41. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 25, 2005 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    CF reminds me of this: ” I love to hear the gurgle, I love to hear the flow, I love to wind my mouth up, and I love to hear it go” At first I thought he was irritating, but he’s actually a lot of fun!

    {I wonder what “CF” stands for: “California Fruitcake?}

  42. CF
    Posted June 25, 2005 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    I see that Ed Friedemann’s wit matches his intellectual skills.

  43. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 25, 2005 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    CF..Compliments are too few these days,..thanks. Perhaps you’ve started a trend? {although it’s so much fun to “get after” somebody, now isn’t it?}

  44. Damoon
    Posted June 25, 2005 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Ed, why don’t you stick to the subject? Your ranting and insults are boring.

  45. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 25, 2005 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Damoon, What can I say….You’re right. I’ll stick to the subject, if you’ll stick it.

  46. Damoon
    Posted June 26, 2005 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Ed, I’ve already stated what I think and have nothing else to say on the subject, but I’d still like to read other viewpoints, not just an ugly exchange of personal insults. If you can’t think of anything more to say about the outcome of the trial, then shut up, please.

  47. Roo
    Posted June 26, 2005 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    A heated exchange! Too bad I failed to jump in earlier into the fray, been out camping!

    Anyway, I do have a question to Mr. Santiago. Spain was colonized by Arabs and North Africans for hundreds of years, how can you be sure that your ancestors—beyond your grandparents—have been Caucasian (or White, as you say)? Or, does “racial awareness” has an upper limit on how far back “purity” must be maintained? Some said that some distant ancestor of mine had been raped by Mongol invaders under Genghis Khan in the plains of Volga. So, I need to check if I can exclude her from my family tree.

    I’m also proudly parading my room-temperature IQ. As a science buff, I measure it in Kelvin scale anyway. So, that puts me about 300, or even 350 in sauna. By that measure, I’m a genius!

    And as for the trial, isn’t there an appeal process currently underway?

  48. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 26, 2005 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Roo, It’s not a heated exchange until you get to the other guy’s mother. { and I thought my “confiction,” as in fictional conviction, was cute, but it looks like I’m the only one }. Doesn’t anyone realize that that was a “show-trial?”

  49. Flea
    Posted June 26, 2005 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    I gotta agree with the ’show trial’ comment. All it is is Mississippi saying ‘look! we’re not racists anymore!’. And to prove it, they convict an 80 year old guy, in poor health, with 40 year old evidence, much of which was missing or lost. I believe they convicted him not out of evidenciary proof, but out of fear of appearing racist. Thank the media for that.

  50. CF
    Posted June 26, 2005 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Ed Friedemann,

    I had considered the possibilty that ‘confiction’ was a double-entendre. But because ‘gitty’ for ‘giddy’ didn’t go anywhere, I figured it wasn’t intentional. My mistake. Even though I disagree with your point, ‘confiction’ is rather clever.

    Unless the murder of Goodman, Chaney, and Schwerner was merely a ’show murder,’ then this wasn’t a ’show trial.’ ‘Show trial’ denotes a trial and sentence that are imposed when no offense has been committed. I think you’ll agree that wasn’t the case here. Three men were murdered by domestic terrorists. Bringing murderers and terrorists to justice is always the right thing to do, and even more so when sedition and the great American stain of race are involved.

    Surely you’re correct that this has social and political dimensions. After all, justice and its administration aren’t just personal matters for the individuals involved. But to call it a ’show trial’ reduces it to these dimension and dismisses the efforts of the jurors to arrive at a judgment.

    If it were merely a show trial, then I suspect the jurors would have found Killen guilty of murder in all charges rather than manslaughter. Personally, I think they should have. But I wasn’t on the jury, and I’m disinclined to second guess the outcome of their deliberations. They took their charge seriously, did their work, and returned independent verdicts.

    In defense of the ’show trial’ claim you could probably cite the closing statement of the prosector, who said that the jurors (here I’m paraphrasing) ‘have the chance to write the official history of Neshoba county.’ But prosecutors say lots of things, and the substance of the prosecution focused on the testimony of witness in order to establish Killen’s centrality to the planning and carrying out of the killings.

    In your first comment, you complained of the lack of ‘real evidence.’ My reply was that witness testimony counts as evidence. The fact that some of this testimony was written and the witnessess deceased is not unproblematic, but remember two points: the testimony was sworn; and because it was sworn, the witnesses, while alive, demonstrated the willingness to undergo cross-examination.

    So, while I concede that political motives may have been a part of the prosecutor’s decision to bring the indictments, for me, this jury’s verdict of ‘guilty’ vindicates the legality of the case. I’m not a lawyer, though. We’ll see whether higher courts agree.

  51. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 27, 2005 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    CF, Gitty and confiction flushed-out your Zionist desperate toilet-word “terrorist,” so all is well in the sunlight. When you need to reach for that, you signal being devoid of either intellect or reason. As a matter of fact that fits so comfortably with the theme of “show-trial” as to being the last resort of a morally defunct entity. You line-up a stream of words, not unlike a column of numbers with the wrong answer, and somehow expect applause. Well perhaps some days with the dunce patrol that happens. But not on this day. This day you’ve been hung-out to dry behind the ears. Accept the favor.

  52. CF
    Posted June 27, 2005 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Ed,

    No deal to your painting the denunciation of U.S. domestic terror with the same brush as one paints the use of terror as a justification by Likud, Sharon, and Bush.

    ‘Terror’ has been made a weasel word. But with the KKK, it fits. ‘Terror’ is the appropriate term to describe their past and present actions. A question: didn’t the KKK and its attacks predate PREDATE the Sharon government?

    Pretty good one liners. Too bad you run away from making an argument.

  53. Jed
    Posted June 27, 2005 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    God! I had no idea some of you people were still around! Thought you’d gone the way of the dodo.
    First and foremost, there is no such thing as race. Genetic analysis shows that we’re all relatives, and a lot closer than anyone had suspected! Further, while some ethnicities may tend toward certain genetic markers, there is no sure way to tell someone’s ethnic background from their DNA- the best it can do is show a probability. Face it; we’re family. That should go a long way toward explaining all the fighting!
    Second, those three young men were killed for trying to point out the above facts, by people who had a vested interest in keeping people ignorant. The fact that Killen managed to play the white race card for forty years in no way excuses his crime. The injustice here is that he hasn’t spent the last forty years strung up by his, uh, thumbs!
    Thirdly, Ian, your three degrees notwithstanding, you seem to have not only managed to stubbornly cling to your ignorance, but worship it. Whoever awarded those degrees should revoke them immediately.

  54. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 27, 2005 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    CF, You’ve made the right point about the KKK. That’s the correct definition of
    “terror.”

  55. Ian Santiago
    Posted June 27, 2005 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Race is a reality, and the shortcomings of the blacke race made the KKK and the institution of lynching wholly justified! CF, you are either a braindead White leftist or a whining,low IQ affrimative action minority betraying your justified inferiority complex!

    Click on the following links and educate yourself on the realities of race. Also, just for kicks, do a google search on “race specific bio-weapons”!

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/06/molecular_eyewi.php

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2005/06/fda_approves_co.php

    http://www.amren.com/9910issue/9910issue.html#cover

  56. CF
    Posted June 28, 2005 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Yawn. So Ian Santiago breathlessly implores me to ‘educate myself on the realities of face,’ and then sends me to Amren. Please. Just because someone has a website, Ian, they aren’t necessarily holy and accurate. Or honest. Even when they argue in support of your dogmatic racism.

    When three non-scientists, none of whom has published anything in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, start running their mouths about genetics and race, I ignore them. Period. Glayde Whitney, by the way, was a psychologist, not a geneticist. It isn’t science when the whole point is to marshall the facts in support of their underlying racist predispositions. And without a scientific basis, your argument is nothing more significant than ‘blacks are inferior–they just ARE.’

    Me a white leftist? Well, duh, Ian. Brain dead? Obviously not, I daresay. I suspect that Nigerian philosophy professor (a Ph.D with multiple books authored) with whom I had coffee yesterday would vouch for that.

    What a small, small, small ‘man’ you are, Ian. I’ll say it again: I hope that the women in your family couple with dark-skinner men who satisfy them in ways you and your scared little ilk never could.

  57. Damoon
    Posted June 28, 2005 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Ian, what’s it like trying to muddle through life with such overwhelming hatred? I’ll bet you’re a very lonely, unhappy, and frustrated person. We have the privelege to walk upon this earth once and only for a very short time, why make it such hell for yourself? Talk about a wasted life!

  58. Dennis Towner
    Posted June 28, 2005 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    “Can’t we all just get along???” Obviously not. We as people, regardless of race, religion, political stance, etc. have never got along. NEVER!!!!! We have been killing each other, enmasse, ever since there was enough of us to throw rocks at. We as a people love war and hatred, killing and suffering. As long as it is someone else. Even better if it is someone “inferior” to us. Poor Mr. Santiago. I bet that a number of folks out there think that the world would be a better place without “people like him”. Wouldn’t that make us just like him?? Full of our own righteous anger and justification. Have pity for Mr. Santiago. If you are the praying sort, say a prayer for him, then do the one thing that might actually make a difference. Teach your children, grand-children, nephews and nieces, that this is a very small world and life is way to short to waste it on such petty little hatreds.

  59. Rodger
    Posted March 20, 2006 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    THIS IS FOR RANDY SHOLFIELD
    ThIS is for randy sholfield…
    RANDY! RANDY! RANDY!

    You are a horrible human being, and I’m ashamed to be on the same planet as you. I hope you have a horrible life and nothing ever goes good for you, because you deserve nothing.