The results don’t change, the comments don’t change.
Kansas State lost to Kansas again. And K-State fans are fed up with Ron Prince again.
But it’s worse now, isn’t it? Thinking about that, something struck me – if Prince had approval ratings, like the president does, it would be undoubtedly at its lowest right now, which I’m not condemning or supporting. The point I’m making is, the perception is out there that he’s not doing his job well.
Is it possible the same thoughts have trickled into his players’ minds? I mean, if everyone insists it’s the case, why wouldn’t the Wildcats suspect the same?
Other than a little spirit before the game, and beyond the chatter during the week, K-State seemed disinterested Saturday, and that’s never a good sign for any coach. In fact, you might say as soon as those thoughts permeate into the roster, it’s a problem, and you might say it’s time for a change.
But what you say probably doesn’t matter in this case.
I don’t know what the administration is going to do. I am a Jon Wefald fan, and this was his hire. Tim Weiser, who has become sort of a scapegoat for some of the ills in the athletic department, did not make this hire. Sure, he was the athletic director, but this became more about Wefald and the new K-State AD, Bob Krause.
And now they have a decision to make. Krause is staying the course, insisting nothing will be done, which is what any athletic director would and should do.
Do you realize we’ve speculating about Prince’s future nearly half of the time he’s been the coach here? Go back and read the comments from this post following last season’s loss in Nebraska.
Not much has changed in a year.
Is this progress?
The Wildcats are in the midst of a three-game losing streak which is almost certain to extend to four this weekend in Columbia. K-State lost four to end 2007, but now, the program has a chance to “top” that, with home games against Nebraska and Iowa State to end the season. Five losses in a row is very realistic, even though the Cornhuskers are mediocre, and if that occurs, think the Wildcats will be up for playing the Cyclones at that point?
The possibilities are endless, and I’m not talking about the schedule.
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They’ve got to fire him after the season. They should have done it last night, but Prince has Wefald and Krause snowed with his “plan” BS so I have no confidence that it will happen. Reading the message boards, KSU nation is nearly 100% against Prince at this point. He’ll never turn that around. I think everyone is sick of being embarrassed and humiliated, except for maybe Wefald and Krause.
I’m sure someone parked an empty U-Haul in Ron Prince’s driveway last night.
It is time…………….Coming to KSU, HCRP big positives are the line play. But the Cats line play since HCRP been here at KSU has been terrible. How do make a KU line play(Def/Off)look like an All-Pro unit which is a below average division one college line. It is time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was the one in that thread last year supporting him, but the lack of progress is clear. The path is also clear. GP, but more likely BV are up for grabs at the end of the season. There is no guarantee that either will be around or interested next year. I actually think we fire him after next week’s shelacking, convince him to a deal where he resigns with similar compensation, put Snyder or his son in till the end of the season, then hire BV, then put everything we have behind him. Give him free reign on recruiting. We’d be bowling again in at least 3 years. We’ve got to cut throats, but we won’t because BK and JW are panzies.
Prince, there’s someone on the phone for you…I think they said the bus is warmed up and ready in the parking lot for “you”.
I am confirmed, Prince needs to go.
What an embarrasment! Prince is not the man for the job!
JMart, rumors are flying that Prince was fired this weekend? Heard he didn’t travel back with the squad and that there will be a press conference today. This comes from former players and current players parents. Apparently there was a confrontation with the assistants and he was spotted calling the Offensive plays in the 2nd half?
I didn’t get to watch the game. (Thank God)
Can you confirm/deny?
Hey Doom,
What is with all the initials? Spit it out. speak inglish.
GP = gary patterson, 48-yr old current head coach of the texas christian horned frogs and k-state graduate from larned, kansas (the frogs are 39-8 since the 2005 season with three straight bowl victories)
BV = brent venables, 37-yr old associate head coach and defensive mastermind of the oklahoma sooners, he’s a former k-state football player and graduate from salina, kansas (assistant coach under k-state legend bill snyder until the 1999 season)
BK = athletic director bob krause
JW = university president jon “the weefer” wefald
HCRP = head coach ron prince
BS = words from the coaches mouth
KU = one of our rivals that own us in football
KSU = the school with the team with the fans in a world of hurt
Embarassing lose to KU last weekend to be followed by embarassing loses to MU this weekend and NU next weekend.
Prince is in over his head, should realize it, and step down as HC. The fraud shouldn’t even force Wefald/BK’s hand on this one.
Nevermind, it’s just wishful thinking.
It’s getting scary right now when I think of where we could end up this time next season.
It’s past time. all those juco xfers, they have to make an immediate impact. they did not, shows he doesn’t eval talent very well, apparently. if they were all frosh, then MAYBE ride it out. He’s not a good coach like a Mangino, who was given a longer leash to turn around a program that was in bad shape. HCRP took a team only a few years removed from glory, and appears to have made it worse.
Bigget problems he has: Can’t get along with coaches or players. Asst. coaches departing year after year, HUGE flag before this season even started. Now he’s taken the reighns from his Off. Cord., which can’t make for a happy house. If rumor is true about him having a yelling match w/ assistants, it goes from bad to worse.
KSU needs a new president NOW, an actually A.D. NOW, and a new coach hired or being worked on hiring NOW. If they wait till too long into the bowl season, it’s too late to find the right coach, and kills recruiting.
This will sound nuts, but PERHAPS Phil Fulmer would be a candidate. The guy CAN coach, hit a rough patch. 10-3 last year, but VOL confidence has hurt him surrounding the program and huge expectations. Get him before WSU revives the program and hires him back to the staff…. far fetched, but entirely possible!
I’m tired of the same lines every week, blow out after blow out from Prince, and he has his players spewing it too. UH, look at tape, UH, on tape… Who gives a crap about how you look on certain plays on tape? You are far more than one player on every play from being good. LOOK AT THE RESULTS as a whole…
BTW, the Merriam-Webster rant was HILARIOUS!!!!!!!
one final note, anyone referring to KSU as a 4 win team should be ashamed. The paid off Fresno St to not kick their teeth in, and took on a DII team to pad stats and wins. SHAMEFUL! KSU Fan, you should be more embarassed than ever, but I don’t know any that aren’t feeling that way…
I LOVE being able to rant on these things, gets my frustrations out about the economy, election, ets.
PRINCE WONT BE BACK NEXT YEAR! ITS OFFICIAL!