Comments on: Will Ron Prince get a raise? http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/ Kellis Robinett takes you inside Kansas State sports Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:40:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5.2 hourly 1 By: zalyxriev gpcqs http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-28087 zalyxriev gpcqs Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:13:38 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-28087 tdwpzcfqv nvbl eqci cdmqr iqosyf fcbx jpntkisa tdwpzcfqv nvbl eqci cdmqr iqosyf fcbx jpntkisa

]]> By: KSUrockford http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-24871 KSUrockford Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:53:05 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-24871 I was very excited to hear of the hiring of Coach Prince in Decemmber 2005. But over the last few seasons one of the main issues I have with Coach Prince is the recruiting issue. If you look at the major programs across the country they are are going after 4 and 5 star rated high school talent. I know it much tough out there. But we consistently are going after three and two star rated kids. Maybe they will develop. Maybe that is all we think we can get. Even the past Nebraska coach who was fired last year when they had nothing was targeting and landing the better talent. Why is that? Where I live the head coach at the University of Illinois has been able to recruit tremendous high school athletes and IL had been at the bottom of the Big 10 for at least 3 or 4 years. Yet last year they went to a BCS game. We can all argue but at the end of the year it is what it is. I say give Coach Prince his chance this year to overcome his critics. But if all we see is the same old results, no bowl game, a sense that there is not a lot of impressive coaching from the sidelines, and no real indepth recruitment ability a change is in order. Why was Bob Stoops and Pete Carroll able to put Oklahoma and USC back on the national map after years that both these schools struggled with trying to rebuild itself. It's the ability to recruit and motivate kids and lead superior coaches. My earlier enthusiasm about Coach Prince is fading by what I see and not what he says or how his supporters want to make excuses for him. I was very excited to hear of the hiring of Coach Prince in Decemmber 2005. But over the last few seasons one of the main issues I have with
Coach Prince is the recruiting issue. If you look at the major programs across the country they are are going after 4 and 5 star rated high school talent. I know it much tough out there. But we consistently are going after three and two star rated kids. Maybe they will develop. Maybe that is all we think we can get. Even the past Nebraska coach who was fired last year when they had nothing was targeting and landing the better talent. Why is that? Where I live the head
coach at the University of Illinois has been able to recruit tremendous high school athletes and IL had been at the bottom of the Big 10 for at least 3 or 4 years. Yet last year they went to a BCS game. We can all argue but at the end of the year it is what it is. I say give Coach Prince his chance this year to overcome his critics. But if all we see is the same old results, no bowl game, a sense that there is not a lot of impressive coaching from the sidelines, and no real indepth recruitment ability a change is in order. Why was Bob Stoops and Pete Carroll able to put Oklahoma and USC back on the national map after years that both these schools struggled with trying to rebuild itself. It’s the ability to recruit and motivate kids and lead superior coaches. My earlier enthusiasm about
Coach Prince is fading by what I see and not what he says or how his supporters want to make excuses for him.

]]> By: squeak49 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14776 squeak49 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:26:09 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14776 What exactly is going right with this program to merit a raise? - Success on the field? No - Staff continuity? No - Progress relative to the other teams in the league? No - Blue-chip talent ready to turn the corner? No - The universal backing of the fanbase? No I don't think anything should be done one way or the other until after this season -- too many bad things have happened to K-State football under Prince's watch, and last season's ending was an embarrassment. If K-State has the kind of season that's expected, he'll be lucky to keep his job, much less get a raise/extension. Surprise us all and go 12-1 like KU did last year, and back up the Brinks truck. Until then, he better concentrate on winning games. What exactly is going right with this program to merit a raise?
- Success on the field? No
- Staff continuity? No
- Progress relative to the other teams in the league? No
- Blue-chip talent ready to turn the corner? No
- The universal backing of the fanbase? No

I don’t think anything should be done one way or the other until after this season — too many bad things have happened to K-State football under Prince’s watch, and last season’s ending was an embarrassment. If K-State has the kind of season that’s expected, he’ll be lucky to keep his job, much less get a raise/extension. Surprise us all and go 12-1 like KU did last year, and back up the Brinks truck. Until then, he better concentrate on winning games.

]]> By: jthutch http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14774 jthutch Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:50:55 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14774 Wait and see! Wait and see!

]]> By: wildcat07 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14772 wildcat07 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:55:22 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14772 Prince gave back his raise when he had the university pay $600,000 to swap Fresno with Montana State. Prince gave back his raise when he had the university pay $600,000 to swap Fresno with Montana State.

]]> By: yosh http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14760 yosh Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:20:14 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14760 Could we give that money to 'Te Hill instead? Could we give that money to ‘Te Hill instead?

]]> By: dudekc http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14753 dudekc Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:08:23 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14753 Apparently we are few and far between in this line of thinking, but show him the money! Pinkel got a raise with adequate success, Mangino got his first big raise with no success. Both of these raises paid huge dividends last year. I don't think it was a coincidence, the raise lets the players know he is staying, lets the assistant coaches know they are staying, gives confidence to both as well as the HC. I'm very excited about this upcoming year, the offense will be stellar and the defense much improved with the influx of JC talent and Josh Moore back. Pay the man! Ante up on Martin as well. Apparently we are few and far between in this line of thinking, but show him the money! Pinkel got a raise with adequate success, Mangino got his first big raise with no success. Both of these raises paid huge dividends last year. I don’t think it was a coincidence, the raise lets the players know he is staying, lets the assistant coaches know they are staying, gives confidence to both as well as the HC. I’m very excited about this upcoming year, the offense will be stellar and the defense much improved with the influx of JC talent and Josh Moore back.

Pay the man! Ante up on Martin as well.

]]> By: jn7874 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14749 jn7874 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:57:30 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14749 i usually expect a raise when i do slightly more than 50% of my job i usually expect a raise when i do slightly more than 50% of my job

]]> By: KCCAT http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14747 KCCAT Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:50:48 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14747 Spread Sheet Boy- I hate it when people compare Prince's start to Snyder's...Snyder had NOTHING to build off of, Prince had EVERYTHING Snyder left KSU with (If not the most talented players at the end at least the name recognition and a foundation). I just find it hard when you whoop up on Texas at Texas then get embarassed by a horrible NU or ISU... you obviously have the ability to win so what does that tell you? Spread Sheet Boy- I hate it when people compare Prince’s start to Snyder’s…Snyder had NOTHING to build off of, Prince had EVERYTHING Snyder left KSU with (If not the most talented players at the end at least the name recognition and a foundation). I just find it hard when you whoop up on Texas at Texas then get embarassed by a horrible NU or ISU… you obviously have the ability to win so what does that tell you?

]]> By: gooch http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/comment-page-1/#comment-14744 gooch Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:52:11 +0000 http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/07/16/will-ron-prince-get-paid/#comment-14744 Is Mangina paid by the pound? Is Mangina paid by the pound?

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