D-Hos

It appears there is going to be resolution to this seemingly never-ending David Hoskins saga. The senior forward will likely be officially shut down for the season in the coming days, which means he will be free to pursue another year of eligibility in the form of a hardship waiver.

Here is the e-mail I received from Bob Burda, the Big 12 assistant commissioner/communications:

NCAA rules permit conferences to grant an additional season of competition when a student-athlete’s incapacitating injury or illness is supported by contemporaneous medical documentation and provided all other prescribed NCAA criteria apply – student-athlete did not compete in more than 3 contests or thirty percent of the completed or scheduled contests, the injury or illness occurred in the first half of the season, etc. (Ref. NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4). If the waiver request does not meet these standards, then we must deny the institution’s waiver request because the conference is not permitted to deviate from the NCAA legislated requirements for medical hardship waivers. It should be noted, however, at the institution’s request and pursuant to NCAA procedures, we can submit an appeal to the NCAA when a hardship request does not meet the requirements due to compelling extenuating circumstances.

Dave obviously hasn’t played this season, so, at first glance, he meets all of the criteria. When K-State played Florida A&M in Kansas City a few weeks back, he said he was already looking ahead to next season, but he was bummed he couldn’t help the current crop of Wildcats. But it sounded as if he definitely wanted to play another season.

So K-State will lose Mike Beasley, probably Bill Walker and definitely Blake Young and Clent Stewart. Denis Clemente will be eligible in 2008-09, which should help the current point guard woes. If the hardship waiver is granted – and there doesn’t seem to be any reason it wouldn’t – Hoskins would soften the loss of Beasley. Walker would be another matter altogether.

Would you be happy with a starting five next season of, say, Clemente, Jacob Pullen, Dominique Sutton, Jamar Samuels and Hoskins? That would be a pretty solid defensive unit. Incredibly athletic, too, with the ability to get up and down the floor. Personally, I think that’s a team that will pull off what Frank Martin is trying to do in Manhattan better than this current group, which isn’t a knock on anyone.

Depth might be an issue, with Fred Brown, Andre Gilbert (I forgot him initially) and Ron Anderson looking like the top options off the bench. Probably still need another shooter. And maybe a stopper off the bench. But Martin is out on the road today recruiting, according to K-State assistant sports information director Tom Gilbert.

13 Comments

  1. K-Rock
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Frank is in NY. My question for you, J-Mart, is what exactly happened to get it to this point with Dave? I mean, we all saw him at the Madness in Manhattan dunking and taking part, and then it sounds like he might ever play again. What exactly happened to go from meniscus surgery to where it is now?

  2. Andrew Maness
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Great insight, J-Mart! I would have to add, however, that ‘dre Gilbert and DK will be on the team as well … I love Darren’s fundamental defense and great passing skills that I believe he could start next season. Don’t count Merriewether out of the mix, either!

  3. J-Mart
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Sounded like there was recurring stuff in the knee. Heard a pop, took some caution with it, but I don’t think it ever healed correctly. The time off should help.

  4. ksu_FAN
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    What do you mean by “probably” on Walker? What odds would you put on his return?

  5. OlatheCat
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Why would Clemente and Pullen both start next year if Clemente is a point guard? Pullen isn’t a shooting guard.

    Haven’t seen Clemente and Samuels yet so it’s hard to tell you what I think of that lineup.

  6. steve dave
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    J-Mart, good reporting. This is what we have been waiting for.

  7. mcmwcat
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    J-Mart, what about the fact that D-Hos redshirted at JUCO ? Does that hurt his chances at getting a medical redshirt this year? Thanks for the update!

  8. sys
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Clemente, t. evans, Dominique Sutton, Jamar Samuels and Hoskins.

    i like this better.

  9. mcmwcat
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    J-Mart, please confirm that Tyree has committed! :D

  10. J-Mart
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Redshirt shouldn’t matter. This would have been his last season of eligibility, but since he’s applying for the waiver, a sixth season could be granted. It’s been done before. And no, I can’t confirm Tyree has committed.

  11. Alan
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    I think Bill Walker will be back at least next season. He’s a great college power forward, but at 6′6″ he’s projected as a small forward in the NBA and until he proves he can shoot 38%+ from the college 3-point range in Big 12 competition, he’s not ready for the NBA.

    I like the depth Frank is building. I think Sutton will develop into the defensive stopper, he looks really quick. With Samuels still an unknown, we should be a solid 2-deep in every position. Hopefully Frank can find a solid 3-pt shooter – Fred Brown?? Luis Colon is the only player I see not contributing much in the future. A far cry from the depth of the past 10 years.

    Isn’t there a big man from Hutch Juco coming in next season? Abdul Herrera 6′10″ who played for Frank in Miami High and recruited to Cincy?

  12. waks
    Posted January 9, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Jay.

    Unless we see a huge turnaround from Walker during conference play then I can’t see him getting drafted in the first round. Do you think he would still take off if he wasn’t sure to go first round? Despite him wanting to go, what other factors have caused you to believe what you do? I know he’s capable of huge games but until he starts having them consistently then I can’t see many NBA teams being overly willing to take a chance on him.

  13. J-Gro
    Posted January 10, 2008 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    This is a big blow to the Cats. Still a fun team to watch, I just can’t imagine them being as competitive in the Big 12 with David. Let’s hope the new found defensive intensity can help them through the Big 12 gauntlet.

    How do you think they match up with OU?

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