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	<title>Comments on: Is the proposed animal shelter too fancy?</title>
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		<title>By: BR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Geez where to start, well I'll give it a shot.  BKS... you are horrified,  what have you done to remedy the situation?  I am sure you have voluteered your time at the Humane Society.  and probably even donated money to them.  Try volunteering and learn a little since you love animals so much.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anonymous # 1 says:&lt;br/&gt;"When the hell are people going to let go of the "make it pretty" concept and just go for functional? I don't give a damn what it looks like. And I don't give a damn what anybody driving 65 on K96 thinks about how pretty it is. Quit spending money like it falls from the sky."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;my answer is.... Anonymous # 1 you are an ignorant slut,  Let me try to explain, in small words so a few of you other "anonymous posters" can follow along.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The City will have a facility, which will be able to take care of their primary duty,  animal control.  They will enforce the laws that "animal control officers" have to enforce.  Things like picking up strays, dealing with agreesive animals, dogs, cats, squirrels, possums etc. and picking up deceased animals. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Currently the Wichita Animal Shelter holds dogs for 3 days...If they are ot picked up by their owners or a rescue group,  then they are gone.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If they are adopted, in that time frame, you get the animal as is... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The beauty of this project is that once the hold time of 36 hours is complete,  the animals go to the Humane Society,  which will be right next door.    &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By the way for all you mensa members, the KHS is not a govt funded foundation.  None of your precious tax dollars will be spent to: spay/neuter/immunize/house/feed/adopt, or pay wages for any of these services.KHS has that covered, but they could use some help. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dogs will available for adoption whatever the breed be,  pit bulls, rotwieler, etc. If they pass the evaluation,  they are on the adoption floor. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anonymous#2 says:&lt;br/&gt;Yea.. lets not fix the Education problem in Wichita lets house and feed stray dogs and cats that have a 5% chance of being adopted&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hey anon #2, once again, I will use little words.   KHS will be the adoptees.  Maybe part of the education process that needs fixed is the fact that that "most people"  should stop reproducing.   or at the very least, turn off their cable tv,  internet, and or game system.  Spend some quality time with the kids outdoors  teach them values,  and go outside for one reason or another, hey maybe go walk the dog?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If animals misbehave, we euthanize them, spank them, or hit them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper, maybe you should do that with your kids... Make the world a better place, used a rolled up paper on anons2 kids face.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well gotta go, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;B&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez where to start, well I&#8217;ll give it a shot.  BKS&#8230; you are horrified,  what have you done to remedy the situation?  I am sure you have voluteered your time at the Humane Society.  and probably even donated money to them.  Try volunteering and learn a little since you love animals so much.<br /><br />Anonymous # 1 says:<br />&#8220;When the hell are people going to let go of the &#8220;make it pretty&#8221; concept and just go for functional? I don&#8217;t give a damn what it looks like. And I don&#8217;t give a damn what anybody driving 65 on K96 thinks about how pretty it is. Quit spending money like it falls from the sky.&#8221;<br /><br />my answer is&#8230;. Anonymous # 1 you are an ignorant slut,  Let me try to explain, in small words so a few of you other &#8220;anonymous posters&#8221; can follow along.<br /><br />The City will have a facility, which will be able to take care of their primary duty,  animal control.  They will enforce the laws that &#8220;animal control officers&#8221; have to enforce.  Things like picking up strays, dealing with agreesive animals, dogs, cats, squirrels, possums etc. and picking up deceased animals. <br /><br />Currently the Wichita Animal Shelter holds dogs for 3 days&#8230;If they are ot picked up by their owners or a rescue group,  then they are gone.  <br /><br />If they are adopted, in that time frame, you get the animal as is&#8230; <br /><br />The beauty of this project is that once the hold time of 36 hours is complete,  the animals go to the Humane Society,  which will be right next door.    <br /><br />By the way for all you mensa members, the KHS is not a govt funded foundation.  None of your precious tax dollars will be spent to: spay/neuter/immunize/house/feed/adopt, or pay wages for any of these services.KHS has that covered, but they could use some help. <br /><br />Dogs will available for adoption whatever the breed be,  pit bulls, rotwieler, etc. If they pass the evaluation,  they are on the adoption floor. <br /><br />Anonymous#2 says:<br />Yea.. lets not fix the Education problem in Wichita lets house and feed stray dogs and cats that have a 5% chance of being adopted<br /><br />Hey anon #2, once again, I will use little words.   KHS will be the adoptees.  Maybe part of the education process that needs fixed is the fact that that &#8220;most people&#8221;  should stop reproducing.   or at the very least, turn off their cable tv,  internet, and or game system.  Spend some quality time with the kids outdoors  teach them values,  and go outside for one reason or another, hey maybe go walk the dog?<br /><br />If animals misbehave, we euthanize them, spank them, or hit them on the nose with a rolled up newspaper, maybe you should do that with your kids&#8230; Make the world a better place, used a rolled up paper on anons2 kids face.  <br /><br />Well gotta go, <br /><br />B</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-280</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;People shopping for an adoptable animal are much more likely to go to facilities that are bright, clean, and where the animals are perceived as "New or Certified Pre-owned".  Who wants to go searching at  facilities that look like holding cells in dungeons, and the animals are perceived as "Used, Abused and Condemned?"  Look at successful adoption centers that sell animals for hundreds of dollars each.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People shopping for an adoptable animal are much more likely to go to facilities that are bright, clean, and where the animals are perceived as &#8220;New or Certified Pre-owned&#8221;.  Who wants to go searching at  facilities that look like holding cells in dungeons, and the animals are perceived as &#8220;Used, Abused and Condemned?&#8221;  Look at successful adoption centers that sell animals for hundreds of dollars each.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-277</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The budget was presented as $5,620,527.00 for a 26,022 square foot building.  The Professional fees were listed at (7.7%) $431,010.00 and a construction contingency of (12%) $674,463.00 for a total budget of $6,726,000.  This calculates to a building that costs $215.00 per square foot. I believe the Wichita USD 259 just bid two new schools that cost less then $130 per square foot.  I love my dog but not more then my kids.  I want quality buildings we can be proud of, but this seems excessive.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The budget was presented as $5,620,527.00 for a 26,022 square foot building.  The Professional fees were listed at (7.7%) $431,010.00 and a construction contingency of (12%) $674,463.00 for a total budget of $6,726,000.  This calculates to a building that costs $215.00 per square foot. I believe the Wichita USD 259 just bid two new schools that cost less then $130 per square foot.  I love my dog but not more then my kids.  I want quality buildings we can be proud of, but this seems excessive.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To all the naysayers, and people upset at the cost of this project out there. Before you object to this, you physically go into the buildings, spend time there. If you have any ounce of compation and moral standards at all you will be in support of this project. Wichita should be ashamed at how we have "managed" our lost, pet control issues...a majority of people here use the out of site, out of mind policy. And it needs to end. If we can afford to build a arena, we can afford to build a up-todate, clean, well lit, people and animal friendly place. A place you would not be afraid to take your child to see and new puppy, kitty, dog or cat to welcome to your home. I tried to take my kids there to get an animal, they took one look and refused to go in there. Is this how we teach our children to take care of animals? I have only compation for the workers and volunteers who take thier time to work with Wichita's lost and unwanted.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the naysayers, and people upset at the cost of this project out there. Before you object to this, you physically go into the buildings, spend time there. If you have any ounce of compation and moral standards at all you will be in support of this project. Wichita should be ashamed at how we have &#8220;managed&#8221; our lost, pet control issues&#8230;a majority of people here use the out of site, out of mind policy. And it needs to end. If we can afford to build a arena, we can afford to build a up-todate, clean, well lit, people and animal friendly place. A place you would not be afraid to take your child to see and new puppy, kitty, dog or cat to welcome to your home. I tried to take my kids there to get an animal, they took one look and refused to go in there. Is this how we teach our children to take care of animals? I have only compation for the workers and volunteers who take thier time to work with Wichita&#8217;s lost and unwanted.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-273</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Considering the conditions that the Animal Shelter staff and their charges have had to endure, maybe it's time someone stand up for all the animals. &lt;br/&gt;I went to the Animal Shelter once to look for my lost dog, and it was so dimly-lit and sad in there that I was nearly in tears as I left.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the conditions that the Animal Shelter staff and their charges have had to endure, maybe it&#8217;s time someone stand up for all the animals. <br />I went to the Animal Shelter once to look for my lost dog, and it was so dimly-lit and sad in there that I was nearly in tears as I left.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-272</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lets do some math.. currently the animals stay 3 days, 6000 were put down last year. = 16 or so a day. &lt;br/&gt;So now we want to build a larger facility to house animals longer.&lt;br/&gt;How much longer?&lt;br/&gt;We will still put down 15 to 16 a day, they will just stay alittle longer. hence more food. Now the budget will go up and the taxpaeyrs will be asked to pay more money to feed the animals at the shelter that are staying longer.&lt;br/&gt;Yea.. lets not fix the Education problem in Wichita lets house and feed stray dogs and cats that have a 5% chance of being adopted.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets do some math.. currently the animals stay 3 days, 6000 were put down last year. = 16 or so a day. <br />So now we want to build a larger facility to house animals longer.<br />How much longer?<br />We will still put down 15 to 16 a day, they will just stay alittle longer. hence more food. Now the budget will go up and the taxpaeyrs will be asked to pay more money to feed the animals at the shelter that are staying longer.<br />Yea.. lets not fix the Education problem in Wichita lets house and feed stray dogs and cats that have a 5% chance of being adopted.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-268</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is absolutely not too fancy.  It could be twice the proposed size and still not come close to housing all of the stray animals in our community.  The city needs to do this and do it now.  I urge responsible people of Wichita to do all the can to control the unwanted animal population by spaying and nuetering their animals and adopting from a shelter as a first choice when getting a dog or cat.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absolutely not too fancy.  It could be twice the proposed size and still not come close to housing all of the stray animals in our community.  The city needs to do this and do it now.  I urge responsible people of Wichita to do all the can to control the unwanted animal population by spaying and nuetering their animals and adopting from a shelter as a first choice when getting a dog or cat.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-267</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They also put down dogs they do not consider adoptable due to media hysteria: pit bulls, chows, rottweilers, german shepherds..and I forget what else. Really stupid because the only time I was there they had 8 loveable pit bulls and 1 good rottweiler and they were telling me that they can't adopt them out due to shelter policy. Those pit bulls were puppies! Gimme a break. Also the proposed pit bull ordinance is really stupid. Doesn't punish the OWNERS enough! A limit of 2 pit bulls per househould is really silly.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also put down dogs they do not consider adoptable due to media hysteria: pit bulls, chows, rottweilers, german shepherds..and I forget what else. Really stupid because the only time I was there they had 8 loveable pit bulls and 1 good rottweiler and they were telling me that they can&#8217;t adopt them out due to shelter policy. Those pit bulls were puppies! Gimme a break. Also the proposed pit bull ordinance is really stupid. Doesn&#8217;t punish the OWNERS enough! A limit of 2 pit bulls per househould is really silly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-266</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When the hell are people going to let go of the "make it pretty" concept and just go for functional? I don't give a damn what it looks like. And I don't give a damn what anybody driving 65 on K96 thinks about how pretty it is. Quit spending money like it falls from the sky.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the hell are people going to let go of the &#8220;make it pretty&#8221; concept and just go for functional? I don&#8217;t give a damn what it looks like. And I don&#8217;t give a damn what anybody driving 65 on K96 thinks about how pretty it is. Quit spending money like it falls from the sky.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/gov/2007/06/27/is-the-proposed-animal-shelter-too-fancy/#comment-263</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Our local leadership decided that since the sales tax was raising extra money, they would just make a fancier, more expensive downtown arena instead of giving the excess back to the tax payers.  And now they are complaining about making something nice for the animals?  Go back to original arena plan and spend that excess on the animal shelter.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our local leadership decided that since the sales tax was raising extra money, they would just make a fancier, more expensive downtown arena instead of giving the excess back to the tax payers.  And now they are complaining about making something nice for the animals?  Go back to original arena plan and spend that excess on the animal shelter.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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