Casually speaking

JWink, a blog reader who likes commenting on our posts, wonders why other people aren’t commenting more. And one of my colleagues, who shall remain nameless, whined about this very thing just yesterday.

I know there are lots of you out there reading Business Casual because you comment on it to me personally (thanks for all the support over my cable woes, by the way), so I would encourage you to start commenting here, too. We’d like this to be an interactive forum. Tell us what you like and what you could do without. Unless, of course, it’s something I’ve written, in which case keep it to yourself!

15 Comments

  1. Posted July 23, 2008 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Carrie, if you win big in Vegas, are you coming back?

    OK, it’s not exactly relevant (unless one has read your previous post), but it IS a comment. :)

  2. Posted July 23, 2008 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    If she wins we all get together at the Larkspur … and she’s buying!

  3. LonnythePlumber
    Posted July 23, 2008 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    People are reading the blogs because they will comment to me about them. I’ve been surprised that officeholders and business leaders are reading them. The posts are better than the uncredited opinion line comments. But they don’t go through a journalistic filter to verify accuracy and often the posts are assaults instead of comments. Although not as often in the business casual blogs.

  4. ictBest
    Posted July 23, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    I love this blog. It’s the best one offered by the Eagle. JWink is another story though. I really hate to bag on the guy, but he can be part of the problem.

    People love reading the blog post and the comments if they contribute to the subject and offer good insight to it. But when people go on about crazy conspiracies and just bag on everything that has anything related to Wichita (naysayers we call them) it just kills the thread.

    WE Blog when it first started was great. The people who commented were also very good. But then it just got overran by kooks, political hacks, naysayers, the JWinks and etc and it just became a very boring and uninformative place. Even the posted entries from the WE staff to the blog and it ceased to have anything to do with Kansas or Wichita. It’s solely focused on National events and national politics.

    I just hope that it doesn’t happened to this blog. Please don’t let the likes of JWink steer this wonderful blog into one that caters to his naysayer, ultra negative and conspiracy point of view.

    :)

    I can tell the authors who contribute to his blog are passionate and have a positive outlook on Wichita. Please keep it that way. :)

  5. JWink
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    Joe: You have been missing. Some of us thought you had finally joined the military to get your life straightened out. I recall you indicated at the WE Blogger meetup at the EAGLE’s building, you were considering finally doing your patriotic duty.

  6. Posted July 24, 2008 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    ” I really hate to bag on the guy, but he can be part of the problem.”

    Yea right Joe! You seem to make bagging on certain people your life’s work.

    One problem I see is that there are those who take constructive criticism of government decisions as ‘nay-saying’ or ‘Wichita-hating.’ That kind of attitude fosters group-think and in turn can lead to disaster.

    I like the idea of a blog that focuses on our City rather than the more global/political arena of the WEBlog. However, if everyone just goes “rah rah” we don’t learn anything and we also don’t refine our approaches in a fashion that might just improve them. In particular it would not be good to have things totally dominated by WDDC and other booster groups at the expense of contrary views that might be held by ‘rank-and-file’ Wichitans.

    All that said I’d like to make another pitch for Music Theater of Wichita. Their upcoming performances of Les Miserables promise to be fantastic. Their season so far has certainly not disappointed and they consistently draw thousands of people downtown. For Les Miserables they are scheduling extra performances so tickets should be available.

    Carrie – might I suggest a thread on MTW in support of these performances at Century II? I have been to theater in New York, London and elsewhere. Our MTW can stand proud among them.

  7. ictBest
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    *Sigh* I arrest my case. As you can see, this is what JWink is all about. I’m not going to be the only one he will be personally attacking on a regular basis. He does this to everybody that doesn’t subscribe to his negative and conspiracy points of view.

    Great! Just great. I didn’t want a real example to happen, to see how a fire is started in a thread, but there you go.

    Oh well. That’s the internet. The JWinks will always be there plugging away. Best just to ignore him.

  8. ictBest
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    And Mr. Ben I don’t make it my life’s work. I rarely post and I don’t go over to the WE Blog anymore. You know better than most that is not what I do.

    You can criticize public officials and public projects all you want, but I don’t have to sit here and let the likes of JWink start spewing lies about public officials and projects. I call him out on it.

    JWink, who believes that Wichita is ran by some oligarchy communist group is some unknown building downtown (his exact words) and me calling him out on it is hardly constructive criticism. He’s a kook.

  9. jerry
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    I enjoy this blog very much, it’s wonderful to have an opportunity to both voice my opinion and view other’s as well. Many times it’s educational.

    I think to many readers this format may still be a bit new and believe that the Eagle will know their true identity. I discovered first hand I was wrong. As more readers become comfortable, I look forward to very lively discussions and debates.

    All the best!

  10. bth
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    “*Sigh* I arrest my case”

    On what charge Joe? Or do you mean you REST your case? Well, “As you can see, this is what Joe! is all about … he’s not going to be the only one Joe will be personally attacking on a regular basis. He does this to everybody that doesn’t subscribe to his points of view.”

    Jerry – welcome aboard! Picking up on my comments this afternoon – check out our own MTW in a couple of weeks. Should be a great show! I don’t know if you caught any of their shows earlier this season but they are really something to be proud of!

    http://www.MTWichita.org

    For the record – other than my season tickets I have no connection to MTW.

  11. ictBest
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Oh Gawd! Can you ever be more creative Ben?

    No matter. I don’t have any beef with you. You can back up JWink all you want. It doesn’t change my or anybody else perception of JWink.

    You can be his friend, but just beware. That is all I have to say. You’re an adult. You’ll learn.

    Besides that. Ben-welcome aboard! Nice to see you still have the passion to promote the wonderful treasure of our community and that is the Music Theatre of Wichita.

    On Les Miserables, did you know that the Unabridged Novel by Victor Hugo is a 513,000 words novel (approx. 1700+ pgs).

    It’s a great story indeed. I would love to see the performance at MTW. :)

  12. JWink
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    ICT/Joe: I notice you have been busy this PM punching in your usual vitrolic comments … always attacking the messenger, but no attempt at debating the important issues facing Wichita.

    In your absence and the absence of a couple of your associates, these blogs have actually been making sense.

    And why no mention of your plans to join your peers in the military? This could get your life straightened out and back on track.

    If you need directions, the all-military services recruiting offices are located at Central and West streets adjacent to the new Dillon’s Store. I suspect the U.S. Army can find an appropriate spot for you to get you back on track and in the ranks of the employed.

    By the way, I have been wanting to ask someone, perhaps you know, where did Ed ________, (how soon we forget), former supervisor of downtown office buildings, go to after he left Wichita? Do you still keep in touch with him? Hope he is able to do better wherever he went than he did here in Wichita.

  13. ictBest
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    My life is perfectly fine JWink. So STFU!

    How long will it take until the rest of them figure out your con game. You never mention why you were chased out of Johnson Co., now you are in Wichita peddling.

    It won’t take long. Don’t worry. You think you have everybody fooled.

    Wondering how much you are going to flood the in-boxes to borderline harassment to the good people at the Eagle?

    They’ll figure you out too, soon enough.

    Oh! And by the way. I don’t need to pass on your message of disdain to the soldiers of the American Armed Forces for you. They understand that some people, like yourself JWink, are ungrateful about and hate the members of our military. They’ll still go on fighting for your freedom anyways.

    May you soon leave Wichita, JWink. And let the door slam you in your butt on the way out. Go to your next stop and peddle your snake oil away from here.

  14. JWink
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Funny Joe … I was in the U.S. Army and reserves for quite a few years, left as a Captain. On the other hand, about three years ago when I met you at the EAGLE’s WE Blog meetup, you said you were “thinking” about joining the military to get your life in order. You are at that age where your peers are serving. What happened to you?

  15. bth
    Posted July 24, 2008 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    My my Joe, you do seem to get hot. I read and re-read JWink’s post and see no evidence of “message of disdain to the soldiers of the American Armed Forces” anywhere in it.

    As for ‘beware’ I’m not worried. I’ve known JWink for a couple of years – not real well since we don’t really run in the same circles. I probably disagree with him politically more than I agree. But I don’t see him as a back-stabber.

    I notice that you seem it to be a real negative for someone (other than a recruited city manager I guess) to be a ‘transplant.’ As a transplant myself I ask you: just how many decades do I have to live here to be a Wichitan in your eyes? Especially since I suspect that I have more adult years working, paying taxes, and investing in Wichita than you do. And doing pro bono work for the City.

    Carrie – a suggestion for the Eagle. Ya’ll have done some of this recently with some features about nearby attractions. My suggestion goes a bit further. Publish a pull-out booklet of “trips on a tankful” featuring “mini-vacations” in Kansas. Advertising could be sold to various Bed&Breakfasts, restaurants, etc in the various towns that would be destinations. This benefits everyone – the nearby communities where I might spend my money and Wichitans looking for afffordable get-aways.

    I can’s remember the exact title but an Eagle writer wrote a book 83,000 square miles or something like that. It has a lot of good stuff – but maps etc would help!

    :)